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Re: FC1 -> FC2 Update: DISASTER!!!



Dan Thurman wrote:

> I would have expected that SOMEWHERE that GNOME or respective
> upgrades programs should have taken care of installation issues
> like this so that less geek people can continue their business
> without grief. Do we ALL have to become linux experts to fix things
> that otherwise could be taken care of?  I don't have TIME to read the
> RTFM's to get a CLUE where I should start when things go wrong.
> 

I agree that these things should be taken care of by Gnome or KDE the first
time you log in after an upgrade. (In fact, I think Gnome does move the old
contents of your desktop etc.) This is an issue for Gnome and KDE
developers, I guess. I note that updates to KDE aren't distributed in the
normal Fedora update channels, despite there being official packages. This
is to avoid such issues - experienced users can download the packages and
sort them out.

At very least, the Fedora release notes should warn that certain files need
to be removed after an upgrade.

> I would *expect* linux to be a *PROFESSIONALLY* built product with
> performance tuning, sound configured *automatically*, etc., etc.,
> but hey... someone has to get paid to support the otherwise lack of
> professionalism? Don't get me wrong.  This is my wish list. If Linux
> is ever going to replace M$ as the desktop, then professionalism should
> be expected and required. That is why M$ wins hands down (never mind
> the other well-known secret OS hooks, secret snooping, or vaporware
> program promises or other "sins" M$ did and perhaps continues to do.)
> 

I'd like to know how well Windows works after an upgrade, particularly if
there are lots of users on the system with non-standard configurations.
Most Windows users NEVER install or upgrade their operating system - they
just buy a computer with it pre-loaded. If your computer had been supplied
like that, and you hadn't tried to upgrade it, we wouldn't be having this
discussion.

There are already more commercial Linux distributions that you could try if
you don't feel sufficiently "geeky" to handle Fedora. The idea of this
project is to develop a stable operating system that will one day form RHEL
distributions, and probably a new RH consumer-oriented product.

But at present, if you use Fedora you have to be prepared for a little bit
of tinkering. The best way to find out how to do things is to read these
lists, and to contribute yourself. You can also help by submitting bug
reports when something doesn't work - how about listing the fact that Gnome
config files aren't sorted out after an upgrade? They will get fixed
eventually - the same can't be said of Microsoft.

Linux gets better all the time. FC2 is the most stable yet in the RH line in
my opinion, and will only continue to grow. Just be patient!


Jonathan




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