Weird issues in 2.6.5

Chris Nandor pudge at pobox.com
Wed Jul 13 16:55:32 UTC 2016


I'll try that module and those rules out, thanks.

Also, do you forsee issues with using 2.6.x userspace on ubuntu12.04, which
is about four years old now?  Its kernel version 3.2.0-99-generic.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:22:57 AM EDT Chris Nandor wrote:
> > Secondary question: the reason for what I'm working on is that we want to
> > be able to audit what folks do as root on our production hosts.  We're
> not
> > a bank, and a perfect solution is not required, but we do need to be able
> > to take reasonable steps to find out if people with access are doing bad
> > things.
> >
> > Is this setup reasonable for that purpose?
>
> Yes. You would want to do two things, first enable tty auditing. This is
> done
> by the pam_tty_audit module. Second consider adding the
> 32-power-abuse.rules
> to your rules.
>
> > I know that's a loaded question
> > and I can answer any questions anyone has that are necessary to figure
> this
> > out.  I am not asking so much about rules, but about architecture:
> logging
> > according to whatever rules we set up, to the local audit.log and
> > immediately to a remote using audisp-remote, so the log can't be easily
> > manipulated.
>
> Remote logging is the defence against local log manipulation.
>
> -Steve
>
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Steve Grubb <sgrubb at redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:47:58 AM EDT Chris Nandor wrote:
> > > > Hi, I had some odd behavior to report.
> > > >
> > > > I am running ubuntu 12.04.  Using the default auditd and
> audispd-plugins
> > > > packages for my release, I was able to get logs sent to local syslog
> and
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > a remote auditd server (same basic configuration), but the entries
> were
> > > > being buffered somewhere (I think on the client side), and if the
> server
> > > > died reconnections didn't happen.
> > > >
> > > > So, I wanted a more recent version, so I compiled audit-userspace
> from
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > github src mirror,* trunk at 1341.
> > >
> > > The github repo is a mirror of svn and is not always up to date. The
> issue
> > > you
> > > are seeing is fixed in the next commit after the mirror stops.
> > >
> > > https://fedorahosted.org/audit/changeset/1342
> > >
> > > if you want the lastest you can:
> > >
> > > svn co http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/audit/trunk
> > >
> > > and then generate from there. I am planning to release audit-2.6.5
> > > tomorrow.
> > > So, if anyone can test the current code, I'd really appreciate it. I'm
> > > hoping
> > > the next release settles down the audit code.
> > >
> > > > When I did, I got some weird results.  For example, I expected got
> > > >
> > > > something like this in my audit.log:
> > > >   node=host.example.com type=CWD msg=audit(1468363871.644:3279856):
> > > >  cwd="/etc/audisp"
> > > >
> > > > And that was as expected.  In syslog, I expected to get:
> > > >   Jul 13 08:34:53 host audispd: node=host.loc.example.com type=CWD
> > > >
> > > > msg=audit(1468363871.644:3279856):  cwd="/etc/audisp"
> > > >
> > > > But instead, I got:
> > > >   Jul 13 08:34:53 host audispd: type=CWD msg=node=
> host.loc.example.com
> > > >
> > > > type=CWD msg=audit(1468363871.644
> > > >
> > > > As you can see, the whole thing was prepended with "type=CWD msg=",
> and
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > line was truncated.  Similarly, on the remote host, I got the same
> thing:
> > > >   type=CWD msg=node=host.loc.example.com type=CWD
> > >
> > > msg=audit(1468363871.644
> > >
> > > > I noticed that the most recent version of the src for ubuntu was
> 2.4.5,
> > >
> > > so
> > >
> > > > I grabbed the src tarball from packages.ubuntu and built it, and now
> > > > everything looks fine.  The exact same line I see in my audit.log
> shows
> > >
> > > up
> > >
> > > > in the remote audit.log, with no buffering.  When I restart the
> remote
> > > > auditd server or client, it reconnects.  syslog has same entry
> > > > (prepended
> > > > with the timestamp etc.).  Everything seems happy now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *For some reason I had to define `CC_FOR_BUILD=gcc` in my shell when
> I
> > >
> > > ran
> > >
> > > > `make` from the svn/git src.  I did not require this when building
> 2.4.5
> > > > from the ubuntu src.
> > >
> > > I think that should have been detected during configure.
> > >
> > > -Steve
>
>
>
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