[linux-lvm] SuSE/LVM boot problem

Andi Kleen ak at suse.de
Wed May 31 08:40:12 UTC 2000

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:22:21PM +0200, Jan Niehusmann wrote:
> > On this topic, what is needed to make lvm work for both / and /boot with
> > full lilo support? I think it somewhat limits the utility of lvm not to
> > be able to make a fully lvm system, and might be tempted to do some of
> > the heavy lifting if it is not too gruesome.
> As lilo doesn't parse filesystems, it has to know the sector numbers of
> the disk blocks that contain the kernel (and the second stage boot loader).
> I can imagine two ways to make lilo work with lvm:
> 1) at install time (when you run /sbin/lilo), lilo maps the logical (lvm)
> locations to physical locations and writes these to the boot block. The boot
> code doesn't need to be changed.

That's not very hard to do. You just need a FIPHYSBMAP ioctl. 

> 2) lilo writes logical locations to the boot block (trivial). The boot
> code needs to understand lvm. 
> Option 2 is probably very difficult to do, as it requires to implement 
> lvm handling in 16 bit code. Only read-only access is needed, but still,
> it's probably a major project.
> Option 1 is way easier to implement, but has one big disadvantage: Whenever
> you move physical extents, you have to re-run lilo.
> Both ways, you may end up with the kernel (or parts of it) moved to
> a drive that's not accessible by lilo.  (while the 1024-cylinder-limit
> is gone, there are still drives that are accessible by linux but not by
> the bios, for example scsi drives on a controller without bios)

I would just add a ``bootable''/``non bootable'' attribute to a PV and a LV. 
When lilo runs it sets a ``bootable'' attribute on the LV, and when you try
to move a bootable LV onto a non bootable PV it complains. Not 100% bulletproof,
because it requires some user action to tag the PVs correctly, but better
than nothing.


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