[rhelv6-beta-list] RHEL6 Mailserver packages

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 09:29, Scott Dowdle <dowdle at montanalinux.org> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> Frankly, having run Clamav in the past, IMHO it isn't enterprise-level
>> software. It needed constant attention, they intentionally broke old
>> versions at the drop of a hat, etc. Red Hat would have to just about
>> dedicate one (or more) people to managing Clamav in RHEL.
>
> Ok, I'm not suggesting that Red Hat has to fix and become the maintainer of clamav.  If clamav is broken, I'd hope someone would fix it.

Having tried to do this at one site.. it is really a full time job. I
know some sites have no problems (and if you are one cool)... but the
amount of hand-holding it took for clamav for that sites traffic made
going commercial cheaper :/.

>> The package set in RHEL is what Red Hat thinks it is economical to
>> provide to a wide base of customers.
>
> I'll agree with that statement but I have to ask... is what they provide... would you call it a usable set of packages for a reasonable email server setup?  Or do you (assuming you work on email servers) drag in things from the outside?

Working on this at multiple sites I have seen pretty much every place
pull in things. The issue is that NONE of them pull in the same
things. Some swear by amavis, others mime-defang, others some stuff
that hasn't been maintained other than them for 10 years. Some require
a giant perl stack of whatever CPAN throws up today, and others the
same from python eggs. Most of them require a lot of updates for new
functionality which falls outside of the 7 year RHEL lifespan.

Trying to come up with a stack that enough people will agree on, pay
for, and be profitable  is a holey grail... and I really haven't seen
a way to make it cheaper than what you get from paying Symantec prices
without losing money.

> In fairness there doesn't appear to be any Linux distro that has a good email server setup out of the box... although some are better than others in providing the raw materials via packages.  It is really quite sad.

Again its because when you ask customers what they want they all come
up with a ton of different applications. The big ones  say
"Sophos/Symantec/etc" and the small guys will usually poo-poo anything
or start racking up the support calls because they needed a new plugin
that RH doesn't support.

> People are already using clamav whether Red Hat provides it or not.  I guess some folks are using more than one scanner... or maybe avoiding clamav altogether... and using one or more commercial products?
>
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