[Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying Spacewalk

Wed Mar 8 11:54:43 UTC 2017

Hello Rosario

I'll share another points to you and on sequence I'll answer your questions.

Let's imagine the scenario, you have 100 rhel servers and you would like to
register / update all of them, when talking about Satellite, will be
necessary one addon named *smart management* and you have to pay for this
to all your servers although when talking about SW this one come with the
project, then, will be possible to you register 100 rhel's in your SW
without problem, on this scenario you will be compliance., now let's
imagine, you have 100 rhel subscriptions but you will register 200, you can
register one huge number of clients on your SW without problem, but the
point is, if you have 100 rhel subscription, you should register on your SW
only 100, if you need 200, should be necessary by +100 subscriptions.
Technically talking you will not be blocked from SW to register new
clients, this is only one legal term that you need take care, if you read
the contract, you will see, you can use RHN, Satellite or another way to
keep your environment up to date, there isn't restriction BUT the number of
subscription is one limiter.

That said, you can download your rhel 6.8 or rhel 7.3 packages for example,
create one base channel on your satellite and just upload all packages,
after this will be possible define this base channel to your client and
voilá, you will be able to reach packages from SW. Remember, to keep
erratas up to date, will be necessary do additional steps. To sync
different versions of rhel in your SW will be necessary additional scripts
or diff ways to download and then upload in your SW.

- Without Spacewalk, on my RedHat account I can see all the hosts
registered on RHN belonging to that account. They are supported by RedHat
under the SLA described in the contract service, aren’t they?
A: Yeap, if you have one subscription with a valid status, sure, you can
just open a new case and Red Hat will help you.

- With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I see only
the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account?
A: Independent of product installed in your rhel, you will be able to see
the server via webUI / customer portal.

- How can I manage all other hosts?
A: This management will be via SW

- Are they under the RedHat support as without the Spacewalk deployment?
A: As I told you, if you have 100 subsc and you are using SW just to
manager your environments, doesn't matter, you can ask for support to all
of them, now if you need Spacewalk support, this one will not be supported
by Red Hat.

I believe now be clear. :-)

Let me know if you have any additional question.

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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM, <rosario.mattera at accenture.com> wrote:

> Thank you Waldirio,
>
> when I say “I’ve the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts” I mean that
> I’ve signed a contract with RedHat in order to be able to register on
> RHN/RHMS all the RHEL hosts I provision on my own infrastructure. Nowadays,
> not all of those hosts are registered, but the Spacewalk deployment has
> been planned to avoid the hosts to go massively on Internet to download
> updates. Thus, I’m going to register these hosts on Spacewalk.
>
>
>
> From you response I see that technically it’s possible to manage RedHat
> hosts via Spacewalk, even if some scripts are needed, but my doubt is about
> the management of entitlements. There are two scenario but I don’t know
> which is actually the behavior. I’m trying to figure out here a recap
> looking for a confirmation:
>
>
>
> -         Without Spacewalk, on my RedHat account I can see all the hosts
> registered on RHN belonging to that account. They are supported by RedHat
> under the SLA described in the contract service, aren’t they?
>
> -         With Spacewalk (deployed on a RedHat registered host), will I
> see only the Spacewalk server registered on my RedHat Account?How can I
> manage all other hosts?Are they under the RedHat support as without the
> Spacewalk deployment?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rosario
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* spacewalk-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:spacewalk-list-
> bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Waldirio Manhães Pinheiro
> *Sent:* mercoledì 8 marzo 2017 05:02
> *To:* spacewalk-list at redhat.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Spacewalk-list] RedHat Subscriptions Management deploying
> Spacewalk
>
>
>
> Hello Rosario, good morning
>
>
>
> Well, you can do this configuration for your environment btw I would like
> to share some points with you. Using SW you can register your RHEL clients
> and manage everything although will be necessary sync the rpm packages /
> repositories from Red Hat and add this one on your Satellite. There are
> some scripts to do this action or you could create your own scripts, I
> believe you can find on our history.
>
>
>
> Once you said *I’ve the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts* I believe
> you have *smart management addon* to all your RHEL servers, that's correct
> ? If yes, I really recommend you align with your red hat sales just to
> check the Satellite subscription. Why ? the answer is simple, using
> Satellite, there are a lot of steps that satellite will do for you, like
> sync red hat repos and erratas will be *automatically* without necessity to
> do manually, when talking about SW, you can do this but will be necessary
> implement some or some time a lot of scripts / execute some steps manually.
>
>
>
> I wrote one book about SW and there you can find some points about your
> questions *http://www.brasport.com.br/informatica-e-tecnologia/
> linux/spacewalk-o-projeto-do-red-hat-satellite/*
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> in one month or less will be available the English version.
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have any additional question about it.
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:20 PM, <rosario.mattera at accenture.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’m trying to configure a Spacewalk server to manage RedHat hosts. I’ve
> the subscriptions for all my RedHat hosts, but I don’t know how I can
> manage the subscriptions once all the hosts will be registered on the
> Spacewalk server rather than the RHN/RHMS. Could someone give me further
> details on this? I don’t know if a Satellite subscription is mandatory,
> even because I’ll use Spacewalk to manage other Linux distributions too,
> such as CentOS, SLES, Debian.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rosario
>
>
>
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