[PatternFly] Browser support update
Stan Silvert
ssilvert at redhat.com
Tue May 22 20:01:51 UTC 2018
Maybe we can load a polyfill when we detect IE11?
Would this work for all the new features you plan to use Andres?
On 5/22/2018 3:31 PM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
> On keycloak.org <http://keycloak.org> we have ~5% on IE11 this year.
> Of IE users 95% of our users are on IE11.
>
> Looking at https://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php there's 2.81% for
> IE11. On
> http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide it
> says 7.17%, which I assume is mostly IE11. They don't give details on
> individual versions as far as I can see.
>
> From my understanding there's still a lot of folks on Windows XP in
> the world and a good proportion has not updated to Edge. I remember
> how long it took to get rid of IE6.
>
> For RH-SSO and Keycloak we have login pages as well as the account
> management console that both should be available to most users.
> Available is subjective of course, but if there's CSS variables used
> which is not supported at all on IE11 I would assume it would look
> very bad on IE11?
>
> On 22 May 2018 at 21:05, Andres Galante <agalante at redhat.com
> <mailto:agalante at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Stian,
>
> How much of that IE traffic is IE11?
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Stian Thorgersen
> <sthorger at redhat.com <mailto:sthorger at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> According to
> http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide
> <http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide>
>
>
> IE11 is still more popular than Edge.
>
> I get the same numbers from keycloak.org <http://keycloak.org>.
>
> On 22 May 2018 at 20:07, Stian Thorgersen <sthorger at redhat.com
> <mailto:sthorger at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> Is the world really ready to move on from IE11? For admin
> facing apps I don't see it as a problem, but what about
> end-user facing apps?
>
> On 18 May 2018 at 10:53, Guillaume Vincent
> <gvincent at redhat.com <mailto:gvincent at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> this is a good news, thank you patternfly !
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Andres Galante
> <agalante at redhat.com <mailto:agalante at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Stan,
>
> Yes! it means we'll go back to use CSS variables
> following the same 2 tier variable system
> <https://css-tricks.com/theming-with-variables-globals-and-locals/>
>
>
> We'll also be able to use CSS grids to build
> layouts :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Stan Silvert
> <ssilvert at redhat.com <mailto:ssilvert at redhat.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I'm quite happy to ditch IE11.
>
> Does that mean PatternFly Next will use CSS
> variables instead of preprocessor variables?
> Eliminating the preprocessor will make me
> double happy!
>
> For our app we want to allow an administrator
> to do simple theme changes from the admin
> console. This gets really easy to implement
> if the app doesn't need preprocessing. If we
> have to use a preprocessor then it becomes
> extremely complicated.
>
> Stan
>
>
> On 5/16/2018 4:55 PM, Leslie Hinson wrote:
>> Hey Fliers
>>
>> At the last PatternFly Next update, the topic
>> of IE11 browser support came up.
>> Specifically, the question on whether or not
>> we needed to support it moving forward.
>>
>> As a result, we wanted to follow up to ensure
>> we understood PatternFly users' browser
>> support roadmap. From what we've been able to
>> gather, we learned that the majority of
>> PatternFly users that are interested in
>> migrating to PatternFly-Next are comfortable
>> proceeding without IE11 support moving
>> forward. We will continue to have PF3 for any
>> users that still require that level of
>> support, however we don't believe that IE11
>> support is worth the cost for this next major
>> version.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone that raised this concern
>> as well as those that provided input to help
>> us make this decision.
>>
>> --
>> Leslie Hinson
>> PatternFly Lead, UXD
>>
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